Jack Layton for Prime Minister?

By  | April 26, 2011 | 79 Comments | Filed under: 2011 Federal Election, Editorial, Politics

It has been strangely quiet here today. What happened to “The Election About Nothing?” Does anyone still think Jack Layton is too sick too run? I have been sitting here sucking it up while you conservatives have been crowing up a storm, yet today I’m not hearing a peep.

If Jack’s P.M., that would leave Gary as Minister of Nothing.

I told you that Susan Galvao was the one to watch, and I don’t here any fat lady singing yet.

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79 Responses to Jack Layton for Prime Minister?

  1. Allan Dettweiler April 27, 2011 at 2:31 am

    Gary is as safe as he has ever been. He will be rejoicing to see the “left” vote split between the Liberals and the NDP.
    But, there are some ridings where Jack may well benefit. I just don’t think it will be Cambridge. I don’t think Susan needs to start packing yet.
    I’m still voting Green.

  2. wes kies April 27, 2011 at 8:41 am

    I think that the many NDP Council members (5) in the city of Cambridge are only getting Susan ready for the next Municipal Election, the NDP did not see this surge coming themselves, You will be seeing Susan at many Events in the next years getting her name out there, Gary himself was a NDP years ago, I was also, untill I had to pay taxes…something about a Money Tree that the NDP think we have….

  3. Scot Ferguson-Barber April 27, 2011 at 9:23 am

    Again, with 30,000+ Portugeuse Canadians in Cambridge, not to mention the people who will vote for her because she’s a woman, combined with the ABC Vote (Anybody But Conservatives) and you may be discounting her too soon.

  4. Toad April 27, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Goodyear is already the Minister Of Nothing. I’ll never forget the way he hatefully glared at my off-leash dog at a tree planting a couple of years ago in Silver Heights Park. Onyx was providing moral support to the folks and Gary, well he was getting some greenie points but somehow managed not to plant a single tree. I guess it was too scientific for him.

    So, am I to believe that Susan is second in the running? should I give her my ABC vote?

  5. Scot Ferguson-Barber April 27, 2011 at 10:35 am

    Yes, Susan is ahead of Brian in the polls, and rising quickly. Gary is still ahead, but the polls are in part based on the result of the last election.
    The ABC vote is between those two, and if the ABC vote is fractured Gary will get back in.

  6. Newsfan April 27, 2011 at 10:55 am

    Gary “hatefully glared at my off-leash dog”. I had to read that a couple of times. That is the dumbest statement I have read in this election. It can ONLY be share by the someone who is of the looney left, because that is how they think.

    Susan is simply unqualified for a position as serious as this, combined with a party that is so far from the main stream it isn’t funny. She lacks leadership skills and cannot hold the attention of the audience in debate well enough to understand what the hell she is talking about. Maybe if she drew eyes on her forehead might help – because that is all you see while she continually looks down to read her talking points that Jack sent her.

    My concern of the NDP holding a power position revolves around the issues that the party has advocated in the past and have gone unmentioned in this election. 1) Big Labor; 2) Hate Speech – as defined by the loonie left; 3) The NDP support for radical religious elements that are a proven to contain threats to our national security; 4) And of course TAXATION to drive our economy into the dark ages.

    I know the loonie left like every square inch of my naked body and we don’t want to radicalize an already difficult agenda.

  7. Newsfan April 27, 2011 at 1:37 pm

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  8. Newsfan April 27, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Gary Goodyear “hatefully glared at my off-leash dog at a tree planting”. And Toad says “he’ll never forget”. Toad says he wonders if he should give his vote to the NDP as a result? Probably.

  9. Newsfan April 27, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    The following os from an article by Blake Richards and illustrates the ridiculousness of the NDP close to power:

    Around Parliament Hill, it has come to be known as the “Bathroom Bill”– an NDP Private Members’ Bill, C-389, that calls for amendments to the Canadian Human Rights Act and portions of Canada’s Criminal Code to add “gender identity” and “gender expression” as prohibited grounds of discrimination.

    Or, to put the practical effect of the bill into plain language, it would allow and legitimize access by a biological man who claims to “identify” himself as a woman into facilities reserved for women, such as public washrooms and fitness club changing rooms.

    The premise of this bill is dangerous and a slippery slope. Because gender identity is subjective, the bill’s protections are wide open to abuse by “Peeping Tom” voyeurs, sex offenders and pedophiles.

    Imagine how easy it would be for a man caught lurking in a girls washroom to avoid prosecution by claiming he actually identifies himself as a woman and only wants to “express” that gender.

    Adding insult to injury, the bill makes gender identity an aggravating factor in discrimination cases. This means that any woman who objects or reacts negatively to a man in a female washroom with her would be opening herself up to potentially being charged with a hate crime!

  10. Margaret Barr April 27, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    OMG newsfan! What has happened to the articulate and intelligent writer (and thinker) in you?

    re: “The premise of this bill is dangerous and a slippery slope. Because gender identity is subjective, the bill’s protections are wide open to abuse by “Peeping Tom” voyeurs, sex offenders and pedophiles…….

    By a timing coincidence; the ultra-right US State of TEXAS, just today, passed a non-discrimination bill for ‘transgendered’ persons. If the Great Republican State of Texas can come so far along, what’s wrong with our (supposedly) more liberal and tolerant Canada??

    As for “Or, to put the practical effect of the bill into plain language, it would allow and legitimize access by a biological man who claims to “identify” himself as a woman into facilities reserved for women, such as public washrooms and fitness club changing rooms…Imagine how easy it would be for a man caught lurking in a girls washroom to avoid prosecution by claiming he actually identifies himself as a woman and only wants to “express” that gender.”

    Any such “claims” would have to be verified, in a court of law. And that means providing substantial evidence that the ‘offending washroom person’ had gender identity issues loooong before winding up in any particular such circumstance. No court would allow such a “defense” based solely on the offenders ‘word’…..

    Mr. Richards must be a ‘loonie right’; one that’s all wrong.

  11. Hags April 27, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    All I know is that if Layton probably fell out of a tree and landed on his head…what about the rest of his flock? Did Susan fall out of a tree too? and more important…was it a coconut tree or a maple? At least falling from a maple would be patriotic.
    Anyway, I find all of the left much crazier than me…and that’s the scary truth!
    P.S. Scot is eXhibit A.

  12. Mike Cahill April 27, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Hello Hags, et al. I know i have been identified as scary left wing (not true, just scary) but what is truly scary are the preceding comments on this subject.
    I will leave out any discussion of glaring for the moment.
    Newsfan, please try and read a paper other than the National Post, and maybe look at a bigger picture of the world. I am very close to accusing you of being Craig Williams under a pseudonym. It’s heinous, i know.
    And seriously people, Sue Galvao running federally for the NDP as a warm up for a Cambridge council seat??? Shut up.
    And you know what’s scary? I’m voting for her so i will have less competition when i run for council in 2014.

  13. Toad April 27, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    Well thank you so much, Newsfan, for the extremely insulting response to my first posting on the Cambridge Citizen. Being a conservative type, of course, you did not notice the irony and nuances in my brief posting. So sorry. Let me further explain….

    Under the auspices of Cambridge City Green and the Frito Lay folks I helped out at a tree planting two years ago. Mr. Goodyear was in attendance to donate some trees to the cause. I kept my respectful distance until he was through with his politicing but my friendly dog did not. He went over to say hello to the folks most of whom were happy to see him. Gary, however gave him such an evil look that I thought that his god was going to smite poor Onyx down on the spot. It struck me once again what an angry, judgemental man he is.

    And no, this is not the point when I went sour on he or his party. I’ve always found him, his party and Cambridge’s support of him embarrassing. For the past several elections I have openly supported the Green Party which is neither left nor right but strictly common sense and progressive.

    I have always been progressive in my view of the world. I focus on truth and beauty. I am a naturalist and an environmentalist. I believe that the human race could do way better than we are doing in the realms of war and peace, poverty and inequality. I know that to people of your ilk that all just means that I am merely a tree – hugging – faggot – loonie. I’m used to that.

    I am very sorry, Newsfan, if my description of an off lease dog, a spring day and a tree planting event angers you so much. But really, isn’t that what you are all about? Anger. In my view conservative types define their world by what they hate. “Loonie left” folks as you call them define their world view by what they love and don’t want to lose.

    The thought of you knowing my politics and world view ” like every square inch of your naked body ” kinda creeps me out, dude. Really. If I were gay, I don’t think that you’d be my type.

    Oh and by the way… during the last two elections your hero, Gary, had a very well put together metal-bordered-easily flippable binder from which to read the Harper doctrine at the candidates debates.

  14. Margaret Barr April 27, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Newsfan, I’m not making anymore comments (today) about your postings above; but I do have a question for you, if you don’t mind.

    A few days ago you wrote that you are such a political neophyte that you had never known (or heard of) the provincial Liberal Candidate, Kathryn McGarry or yours truly (until I ran for the PC nomination on April 16). Yet, today, you made the statement that “Susan is simply unqualified for a position as serious as this,(MP)). In view of that comment, do you know Susan personally, or are you merely being playing party politics? Just askin’…

  15. Margaret Barr April 27, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Toad, I promised not to make anymore comments (today) re: newfan (er, I mean newsfan)

    But I must say to you; if anyone gave MY dog an ‘evil look’….I wouldn’t vote for them or even recognize their existence. I love my dog!

    Please see why: Youtube
    Search: margaretsdog

    My Pudgy still looks exactly the same, but he’s fully grown now and a whole 14 pounds bigger.

    Who couldn’t love that face?

  16. Scot Ferguson-Barber April 27, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Toad, Newsfan has only been posting here for a week or so himself. We try to track a variety of opinions, and newsfan certainly has his. The rest of us are glad to see you here.
    Here you go Margaret, you’re right, he is cute. httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fytZcGQeEMA

  17. Toad April 27, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Thanks for that Margaret. Oh yea! …your dog’s a cutie.

    I don’t trust anyone that doesn’t like dogs and cats, flowers and trees, wine and cheese, children and seniors, truth and beauty.

    If that makes me a “loonie leftie” then so be it.

  18. Margaret Barr April 27, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Thanks Scot and Toad. Pudgy never has learned to ‘sit’, except when he wants to do so. In fact, he never does anything, unless he wants to. I make no apologies for spoiling him rotten; who couldn’t?

    Toad, I think you and I may be of similiar minds. I love all the same things as you EXCEPT cats. I do tolerate them; but only in small doses. So, I guess you can’t completely trust me…but darned near 🙂

  19. Hags April 27, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Wow, Scot writes about the possibility of Jack being PM and you end up in a pissing contest over dopey canines….what next, roundabouts and Drayton?
    Anyway, to get back to the point, I would love to see Jack as PM. His party has told us for years that they are smarter than the other parties (esp Tories)….more honest than other parties…and a better bet to create a more prosperous country for us all. I don’t know about you but I want to see for myself how they will perform when their job is to get things done instead of just criticising and second guessing.
    Bring it on NDP…It may soon be time to put up or shut up.

  20. Newsfan April 27, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Margaret could you please share how you arrived at your Texas conclusion, because all I can find are stories proposing the REMOVAL OF TRANSGENDER RIGHTS granted 2 years ago?

    While your at it will you share your position on abortion and same sex marriage? Just curious.

  21. Facetious Lee April 27, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    Margaret, how could you even think of going to Ottawa and leaving Pudgy behind?

  22. Newsfan April 28, 2011 at 8:54 am

    So, the fact that the NDP supports anti-Israel orgy which seems destined to continue. … without any condemnation, of course, of Hamas, Fatah or Hesbollah anti-gay, anti-female policies, or their torture, killings and terror … inflicted its own people, is okay then?

  23. Newsfan April 28, 2011 at 8:55 am

    Margaret will NEVER get to Ottawa or Queen’s Park on a Conservative ticket, with or without Pudgy, in my opinion.

  24. Newsfan April 28, 2011 at 9:05 am

    @Margaret – to answer your question, I never said I was a political neophyte – you did, or certainly implied it. The point was that outside of certain inner circles of our region, many people do not the candidates whatsoever. And, that is despite their repeated candidacy for various government paid positions.

    That is why I called you and other candidates out to better introduce yourselves. The lack of information regarding people who are running for office is abysmal. To a large extent, I hold the leadership of the parties responsible for this ommission. I believe that after they have satisfied the vetting process in respect to a candidate, it should be mandatory to provide indepth information for all to see and debate.

    I doubt VERY much that if you voiced your support for Bill C-389 at the outset, you have had zero chance of getting your campaign off the ground.

  25. Newsfan April 28, 2011 at 9:09 am

    Toad, could you please explain your accusation of me where you stated “I know that to people of your ilk that all just means that I am merely a tree – hugging – faggot – loonie.”??

  26. Scot Ferguson-Barber April 28, 2011 at 9:12 am

    Hags, you are not allowed to write about dogs here, we have the spam catcher set for “hagarty and dogs” but you slipped it past by using canines. We are watching you.

  27. Newsfan April 28, 2011 at 9:22 am

    @Mike Cahill – The NDP has had a free ride in the media in respects to their platform on many, many issues. They are so outside of the mainstream of Canadians, that I believe there proposed articles of legislation should be put forward now, not later.

    If disclosing information like C-389 stirs up a hornets nest here, what about under the scrutiny of public debate? These aren’t “accusations” or “dirty politics”. There are numerous proposed pieces of proposed legislation that many, if not most, Canadians would go “whoa, wait a minute”.

    Like it or not Mike, there are Canadians that have traditional views that have made massive contributions to our society and are rarely heard from. They do not stage protests and destroy public property to make their point and, as a result, get no media exposure to their views at all, save to be accused of being a bigot, homophobe, yada, yada.

    Like it or not Mike, there are a lot of people who are getting fed up with the liberal bias within the media in Canada and are starting to speak up. Don’t like it – shrug – tough.

  28. Newsfan April 28, 2011 at 9:37 am

    @Margaret – No I do not know Susan “personally”. I don’t believe I have known a lot of political candidates “personally” really. Or for that matter my grocer, barber, gas station owner, …But, if someone is going to run for office and they have advocated something that I disagree with and believe could be detrimental to our society and Canada, I speak up. SURPRISE!

    To suggest that I am intolerant because I do not want my wife, my daughters or granddaughters to be confronted by a male – albeit confused – in a public washroom, then too bad!! It is bizzare that socialists march the streets for the right to have women cover themeselves and wear a niqab and my granddaughter is to be forced to expose her genitals to a confused male out of tolerance and liberal thougt!?? Good luck Margaret!

  29. Scot Ferguson-Barber April 28, 2011 at 9:50 am

    The Liberal bias in the media? LMFAO!! Last election Torstar, which has a monopoly on the media in Cambridge, openly endorsed the conservatives. You can’t tell me otherwise because I was writing for The Record’s Community Editorial Board at the time.

  30. Scot Ferguson-Barber April 28, 2011 at 10:05 am

    Today’s polls show the NDP only 6 points behind the conservatives.

  31. Margaret Barr April 28, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Wow! Lots of questions to answer here, Newsfan.

    1. The article you seek re; Texas; can be found on the Dallas Morning News site (dallasnews.com)…. It is Dallas County that, only yesterday, made the move (not the entire state..I should have been clearer on that, sorry.) You are correct that many in the state are attempting to revoke such rights, but have not been able to do so as yet.

    2.I have made my stand on both issues (abortion and same-sex marriage) VERY clear here, and elsewhere..many times, but will do so again (without reservation); I am pro-choice (as are MANY in the PC Party;not many at a federal level, but certainly many at the provincial level.. )..As for same-sex marriage, I’m not sure whether that is a ‘union’ recognized by anyone’s God. But if two people love one another and share a life, then they should also be allowed to share the same privileges as a ‘married’ couple (estate, taxes, wills. etc). In other words, who does it hurt? No one! As for provincial PC candidates willing to say publicly exactly where they stood on both issues, there were only two (besides myself) and they (Sultana and Johnson) were Anti-abortion. I can guarantee you that Rob is far more ‘savvy’ and progressive than you give him credit for (either that or he has fibbed to me..and I know he hasn’t!).

    3. As for my ‘support of Bill C389’, I never said I supported the Bill, as written. What got my dander-up was Richard’s ridiculous arguments against it..I have ALWAYS made it clear that I support equal rights for ALL (regardless of sexual orientation, culture or race)…BUT (and this is a ‘big but’)that is ONLY so long as those equal rights don’t infringe on anyone else’s rights or hurt another.

    I respect the fact that you didn’t know any of the candidates prior to us stepping forward for nomination, or election (except Rob, whom you know personally). But if you ever read the local newspaper, you would have surely seen my face (photo) even if you never read my column(published weekly for 9 years). And you would have known me and where I stand on just about everything. In fact, just prior to deciding to run for the PC nomination (at the behest of several long-time PC members)I had agreed to return to the Times’ and start the column again. We had already decided the terms. I, then, had to go to the Times and say I couldn’t take on the job (not at that time anyway) because I was running for office and it would be an unfair advantage for me to have a forum that other candidates did not.

    As for going to Ottawa…..never would want to.

    Now, back to my question to you, which you have not yet answered; How do you know (quoting you) “Susan (Galvao) is simply unqualified for a position as serious as this,(MP)). I remember when Gary Goodyear first ran for office, the talk was all about “what qualified a Chiropractor to be an MP?” Well, I think our local chiropractor has done just fine as an MP, thank you very much.

    Now on to Facetious Lee’s question: I wouldn’t go anywhere without Pudgy..He goes where I go 🙂

    Hags; the whole time we were ‘discussing’ dogs, I swear I was thinking about you. At the time, I never commented on the column you wrote, but I’m going to do so now (I’m on a roll, thanks to newsfan). The ‘controversy’ on your ‘dog story’ had me laughing for days on end.The column did not make me laugh, but the letter writer’s sure did.. As a dog lover, I couldn’t finish the whole column (it didn’t seem fair to my dog to read the entire thing.)But anyone with half a brain should have known it was satire (not my particular type of satire, but satire nonetheless). As soon as I stopped laughing at the folks who took you so seriously, I started to cry; thinking about how many people in our fair city would actually take the time to write and verbally chastise you for something so silly. Yet, we never hear from these folks on serious issues….

    (P.S. to Newsfan: If you don’t want the media to “accuse” you “of being a bigot, homophobe, yada, yada.” I suggest you start by removing the ‘logo’ attached to your name, when you comment on the Times (which I guess you have recently started to read). The photo of a ‘cowboy’ with the words “Real Men Love Jesus” is kinda’, sorta’ almost; homophobia….

  32. Newsfan April 28, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    Who knows Scot, maybe the polls won’t be the inaccurate conglomeration of numeric nonsense for a change. Secondly, in 2006 and 2008 the NDP surged a bit at the end – both times at the Liberal expense.

    It’s pretty easy for the NDP at the moment, but the
    markets are telling voters not to even go there. If the markets get a whiff of a NDP power base then lookout. Money is fearful and there are other places in the world to put it other than Canada should the NDP be a major figure in the next government. Headlines “NDP’s rise shaking markets?”; “Markets take notice as polls find NDP support growing”; “NDP’s Orange Crush Could Dampen Markets”; “The upstart left-leaning New Democrats hit new heights in polls Wednesday, making Canada’s May 2 election impossible to predict and sending a rumble of discontent through Canadian financial markets.”

    The markets are saying “if you decide to vote stupid, we will spank you”.

  33. Newsfan April 28, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Your opinions clearly illustrate a CINO (Conservative In Name Only) mindset. To suggest my moniker “Real Men Love Jesus” is homophobic, is absolutely ridiculous and an insult to Christian Men and Christianity as a whole. But, real Christian men can take it too!

    You seem to take a stand all right. Right smack dab on the middle of the fence on virtually every contentious issue. That’s not leadership! That is trying to be all things to all people and – heads up conservative leader wannabe’s – it doesn’t work! Canadians do not want conservatives to be more like Jack, Mike or Elizabeth, to win elections. Conservatism can stand just fine on its proven principles. A toss salad approach has not and will not work.

    C389 is not about equal rights, it is – like the issue of same-sex marriage – about SPECIAL rights for a given group. The male who thinks he may be female, has the same right to use a man’s washroom, as I do. The gay male has the same right to marry someone of the opposite sex, just like I do. The 2 groups asked for SPECIAL rights to do something beyound what is EQUAL for everyone else. That isn’t equalty that is cutting a special law for a segment of society.

    Your campaign and that of Susan and Kathryn quite frankly have been unremarkable to me, so I do not really “know you” in the sense of a dynamic candidacy. Sorry.

    But, if Hags can make you cry, what do I know.

  34. Newsfan April 28, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    Hey Scot, I looked really, really hard to find the pro-Conservative media endorsements. They are just – virtually – not there! Unless they are hidden amongst all the pro-Liberal endorsements.

  35. Scot Ferguson-Barber April 28, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    hmmm…maybe they are afraid of a Harper Majority too.

  36. Hags April 28, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Margaret, glad I made you cry tears of ‘questionable’ joy. Maybe one day, in a land far away, I’ll write something that will make you laugh…anyway, regarding the ‘offensive column’…my intent was to write a serious article about being out of step with dog lovers…what I wrote however took on a life of its own resulting in my birthing a column of prolific stupidity…oh well.
    Newsfan… i really like the ‘real men love jesus’ line.

  37. Mike Cahill April 28, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Let us all take a step back and ask a question. Who is Newsfan? 3 months ago, even on the Cambridge Times site the “Newfan” was a lone, lurker, loquacious and lugubrious. Note also that his posts are always “on message”. He has all of the talking points but rarely ever answers questions or criticisms.
    In other words, a paid political operative.
    two bucks says he is gone 2 weeks from now.
    Or maybe he has a real name?? Just sayin’

  38. Hags April 28, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    don’t know if he’s lugubrey-something or not…he just sounds excessively mournful to me.

  39. Margaret Barr April 28, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    Mike, you and I have had the exact same thoughts; and I do mean ‘exact’. Last week I wrote something in the Times comments about not being fond of ‘anonymous’ writers, (especially when they are attempting to belittle someone). This was in response to a person who asked me how much Rob Leone was paying me to be supportive of him, now that I had lost the PC nomination (I should add that from the writer’s syntax, I would bet a whole bunch that it was the same anonymous person who personally emailed me with words I won’t print here……So I was mightily ‘ticked-off’ that I felt the same person was now ‘following me’ in the newspaper) … ‘Newsfan’ responded with his own answer as to why he (or anyone else) may choose to remain anonymous. He actually mentioned something about fear of reprisal and yes, “‘terrorism” (or the word “terrorists”..I forget which word….but for sure it was one of those. And no, I’m not kidding!)

    Hags and Newsfan: I have no issue whatsoever with the phrase “Real Men Love Jesus”. However, when that phrase is coupled with a photo of a cowboy, looking very much like a star from ‘Brokeback Mt.’..Yes!It very possibly could be considered a ‘slam’ at homosexuals…There is a “Real Men Love Jesus” facebook page, and it has some good and powerful messages; but the photo accompanying the messages is one of Christ…..not of a ‘cowboy’!

    Newsfan: Once again, you did not answer my question about your comments re:Susan Galvao..Further, don’t misquote me, please. I never said Hags made me cry. I said knowing how many folks in our city took Hag’s ‘doggie’ column so seriously is what made me cry.

    Real Men, Women and True Christians Love Jesus and Everybody Else (okay…maybe not).

  40. Margaret Barr April 29, 2011 at 12:09 am

    Hags, your post above, about the word ‘lugubrious’ made me laugh…….(After I looked-up the word)LOL!

  41. Facetious Lee April 29, 2011 at 2:08 am

    What does that even mean?

    mournful, dismal, or gloomy, especially in an affected, exaggerated, or unrelieved manner: lugubrious songs of lost love.

    Hmmm, I’ll use that one every day!

  42. Scot Ferguson-Barber April 29, 2011 at 6:48 am

    Hey Newsfan, still think Torstar isn’t a conservative paper? This is part of the editorial in The Reocord today.
    “Canadians have to create a new Parliament with the political parties and parts they have been given. When we weigh all the options, we conclude that despite their abundant flaws, the Conservatives, with their experience and vision, would be best for this country.”
    Do you want to tell me again that they are “Pro-Liberal?”

  43. Newsfan April 29, 2011 at 7:49 am

    No Scot, what I would want you to tell me is that their pro-conservative commentary is a ‘miracle’.

  44. Newsfan April 29, 2011 at 7:58 am

    It’s too bad you have to resort to insults Mike. You demean yourself in doing so and detract from the literary genius that I thought you had. However, very typical of a liberal thinker. Such a waste.

  45. Newsfan April 29, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Margaret, you keep on and on and on and… To remotely suggest my Christian moniker implies a “slam at homosexuals” is very, very unbecoming of a candidate for public office, albeit a failed one.

    The REAL MEN LOVE JESUS symbol is to dispel the myth that Christian men are somehow relegated to some wishy washy form of human existance. Nor are we door mats for the left who often advocate positions that we believe, run contrary to God’s best plan for our lives and our society as a whole. Do we AGREE with same-sex lifestyle or abortion or fiscal irresponsibility or war – to name a few. No.

    I have blogged under another alias for other news entities of which international terrorism was the main focus.

    In fact, I also write a column relating to the middle east and, quite obviously, touches on terrorism. As a result, I, and my family, HAVE been threatened with violence and I do not take those threats lightly. Unlike the North American left, like you, people who advocate violence and are related to the religion of peace, have a primary focus and tend to keep their word.

    I answered your questions and if I have missed any, please let me know. Mike, I invite you to do the same. If you want me to tell you what you want to hear, I might not be able yo help you.

    Since you are mentioning it Margaret, how do you define what a Christian is?

  46. Newsfan April 29, 2011 at 8:31 am

    Scot – Just to let you know, posts are often not being added.

  47. Facetious Lee April 29, 2011 at 9:05 am

    The term “homophobic” irks the hell out of me. Applying a negative sounding term to those who won’t go against God’s plan is wrong.
    These same individuals attach a positive term to those who advocate that a woman somehow has the right to murder her unborn child – “pro-choice”.
    There must be some terminology for those who have a fear – a phobia about obeying God’s will.

  48. Newsfan April 29, 2011 at 9:05 am

    Margaret if you loved ‘lugubrious’, then ‘loquacious’ must have made you cry…again.

    I’m surprised that you are so unaquainted with the ‘Real Men Love Jesus’ phrase, since you seem to know EVERYTHING. The phrase has been around for a long time. It is popular among Christian men – which do make up a number of constituents.

    We tend to dispel the myth that Christian men have a ‘Richard Simmons’ type of personna. It is even possible that you can attend a men’s get together where you might hear songs like “Grow a Pair” with lyrics:

    We’ve been beaten down
    Feminized by the culture crowd
    No more nice guy, timid and ashamed …
    Grab a sword, don’t be scared
    Be a man, grow a pair!

    NOTE: It’s not sung to the tune of “In the Garden.”

    Heck, you might even see some of us get into a fight when playing hockey.

    In respect to my choice to remain anonymous, it does stem from the fact that I blog on sites addressing terrorism and write columns in respect to the middle east where – get this – terrorism really exists there Margaret, here too! I, and my family, have been threatened with violence, not insults like you get, violence. So, I tend to be careful.

    I believe I had answered your questions, if not please repeat them for me. Mike, I invite you to do the same.

    This is the second time I have posted a response, similar in content, but for some reason the posts are not showing. If it did, my apologies for the repetition.

  49. Scot Ferguson-Barber April 29, 2011 at 9:57 am

    newsfan, for some reason the spam catcher has stopped a few of your comments until James or I could approve them.
    We do check it several times a day.

  50. Hags April 29, 2011 at 10:03 am

    Hey, kids the latest posts are simply lugubree-licious! How depressing.
    Scot, The Star has a mandate to promote Liberal values. No Cons are anyone remotely on the right would think it’s balanced; it’s not supposed to be.
    It’s opposite is the Sun; they detest lefties and make no bones about it.
    Anyway, to say the Sun or Star is balanced makes me feel loogoob-ree….you know what I mean.

  51. Margaret Barr April 29, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Newsfan, Thank you for your advice re; how not to be ‘unbecoming’ as a failed (or even successful) candidate for office. But I, most humbly, disagree. I believe in saying what one believes. Not doing so is simply another ‘yada, yada’ political speech. If I lose elections (or anything else) because I am too ‘open’ and ‘blunt’. Sobeit. I can always look myself in the mirror…knowing I didn’t sell out just to get a vote…I was very clear (again) when I said that the “Real Men Love Jesus” phrase is absolutely fine, but not when accompanied by a ‘photo’ of a Brokeback Mountain ‘cowboy’…I believe the phrase (without the offending photo) probably started after the “Real Men Don’t Eat Quiche” book. But that’s just a guess. I haven’t researched it.

    Seriously sorry to hear about any terrorists threats to your family. Completely frightening. I am still of the mind that anonymous writers carry little weight. While I, thankfully, have never been personally threatened by terrorists, my family and I were seriously threatened (with violence)when I first started writing my weekly column for the Times. Police never located the offender. In the end the officers (and the editor) thought it best that I begin to write under an ‘alias’. After making intensive arrangements for my family’s security (especially my then 5-year-old son; who was specifically targeted in the threats) I continued to write under my own name. I felt then, and I feel now, that if you can’t take the heat…get out of the kitchen. You can argue about this all you wish…but it is my personal belief system and (hopefully) will never change.

    Answer to your latest question: My personal definition of a Christian is a person who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ and has tolerance for all, save for those who would intentionally harm another. I am a Christian. In your view, probably I am a too tolerant one……

    I answer all your questions honestly and clearly (though you may not like some of my answers).

  52. Toad April 29, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Well it’s come to this.

    I’m headed for a very busy weekend and will have little time to pay attention to the election. I’m going to have to put my trust in the Cambridge Citizen. I’m going to need to know by Sunday evening what the opinion polls are indicating in the Cambridge riding.

    My heart lies with The Green Party of Canada but if it looks like the Susan Galvoa may have a chance of denying Mr. Science his seat in parliament I will park my vote with her. Please don’t try to change my mind. I remain a stalwart loonie-leftist. Just the facts please…

    Oh and Margaret I will eventually use my real name here. I’m just testing the waters here.

  53. Margaret Barr April 29, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Toad, I have no doubt that you will eventually use your name here. Your previous posts indicate a straight-up guy. I like that in a person, even one with whom I may not always agree.

  54. Toad April 29, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Oh dear, I spelled Susan’s last name wrong. It’s GALVAO. That should set a few people off…

  55. Scot Ferguson-Barber April 29, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Margaret and Newsfan, you must not have watched “get the writers” or I would have heard about it.
    Now, back on topic here, it was just announced that two prominent Bloc members are urging people to vote NDP. This is from today’s Star.
    “In an unprecedented move coming on the heels of the NDP’s meteoric rise in Quebec, two Bloc Quebecois members are urging their fellow sovereigntists to vote orange.

    In an open letter to La Presse newspaper, Maxime Bellerose, a former president of the Hochelaga-Maisonneuve riding association, and Benoit Demuy, a former adviser to Bloc MP Real Menard, say they will vote for the NDP and ask their political stablemates to do the same.

    The pair argue that the Bloc has done all it can for Quebec, saying another option is worth exploring. They say sovereignty should still be a goal for the province but Ottawa is the wrong place in which to fight. That fight, they argue, should happen in Quebec.”
    rest of story here. http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/982823–two-bloc-members-endorse-ndp?bn=1

  56. Margaret Barr April 29, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    I keep thinking we could wake up to an NDP government on Tuesday morning. If so, I wonder if it will be as it was after Rae was elected Ontario Premier? Remember the next day at our workplaces and other public spots? I well remember; no one admitted voting for him………

    I gotta’ say, though, that watching Layton on the tele last evening, he was a helluva’ lot more impressive than Iggy.

  57. Hags April 29, 2011 at 1:59 pm

    Margaret, we will survive Jack much as we survived Rae. The Dippers have always said they’re ethically better people and could do a better job than either Tories or Libs…so I say if they take the big prize, it’ll be time for them to put up or shut up.
    By the way, I can hardly wait for the first NDP scandal….and there will be many I’m sure.
    P.S. you are right, when the problems start, you’ll not find a soul save for Scot, who’ll admit to be dumb enough to have voted for Jack.

  58. Scot Ferguson-Barber April 29, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    I’m voting for Susan.

  59. Hags April 29, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    Scot, you may assume that I’m voting Goodie but I’m staying home. And the one who worries me most is not Jack ot Steve but Iggie.
    The Libs deserve a good kick in the bollux and I hope they get it.

  60. Newsfan April 29, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    Goodyear Wins Big!!

    Goodyear Wins – Reveals NDP Surge Was Only Taxpayer Splurge!!

    May Says Wha Hoppen!

    Conservatives Anxious to Get Back to Work for Canadians!!

    Barr Seeks A New Party For Yet Another Chance! Seeking Fence with Left and Right Handed Seating.


    Layton Caught Raising Cane Too Soon!!

    May Prays for June!!

    Iggy Moving to Russia! But Won’t Vote

    Cahill Drowns in Glass of Guiness – ok I made that up, it was Kabuli

    Conservatives Do It. Media Says I Told You – Sort Of!

  61. Newsfan April 29, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    Forgot one:

    Toronto Star Writer Accused of Being Closet Tory and Locks Himself in F35! Engine not turned on!

  62. Newsfan April 29, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    Ohhhhh, I almost forgot!!

    Marxist Candidate Missing – Note Found Saying Desperately Seeking Susan

  63. Malcolm April 29, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Need a bigger spam catcher, some of these comments are unadulterated rocking horse manure. Nobody seems to be in his/her right place; that’s why this whole society is in such a mess.

  64. Margaret Barr April 29, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Hi Malcolm! Good to see you here (going to be seeing you at Muriel’s soon, though..big dinner coming up within the next 2 weeks; specific date coming your way via email).

    I trust you. You tell me where my right place is…newsfan doesn’t think I am right-winged enough to call myself a conservative. If he’s correct, then I guess I better not vote that way?

    This is the first time I haven’t voted in the advance polls. Perhaps God had a hand in making me delay the process, so He could send newsfan to enlighten me and stop me from voting conservative. Whadaya’ think, darlin’?

  65. Newsfan April 29, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    Right Malcolm. When it suits the political conversation it is satire, when it doesn’t it’s spam.

  66. Margaret Barr April 29, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    I can just see the Libs and NDP laughing now..as they look at the ‘conservatives’ fighting among themselves, on this very site…

  67. Scotty Moffatt April 29, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    Why are the Conservative backers not just talking up Harper instead of trying to deflect the Layton Issue, just seems to make more sense.

  68. Mike Cahill April 29, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    Listen Newsfan, i don’t expect anyone to agree with anything i say. This country is dying from a lack of intelligent public discourse in all media and all venues. This site is awesome because it is the Fiddle and Firkin of political chat (without the bar tab!)
    That being said, don’t ever assume that i am, for example, as left as Hags or you think, don’t ever assume that you know better about ANYTHING than Margaret does. And bear in mind that an opinion behind a pseudonym equals near zero cred. Everyone else here uses real names, and have real reps.
    I have issued no insults and have not belittled any of your assertions but i will call you out on your identity.
    P.S. One year from now Steven and Iggy will be looking for new jobs.
    Bon nuite.

  69. Margaret Barr April 29, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    Mike, I sure as heck don’t know about everything; But I never speak of anything that I don’t know everything about (or something like that).

  70. Margaret Barr April 29, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    I’m overstaying my welcome here, I think. I better go get a ‘weekend life’. Wait a minute! The Citizen IS my weekend life and I’m staying until you throw me out; because Monday, I’m back to my paying job from 9-9 and won’t be able to have much ‘Citizen’ fun…..So bear with me for just a couple of more days…or kick me off…

  71. Malcolm April 29, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Politics is a war of the unwilling, being led by the unqualified, lied to by ungrateful who look for our vote then forget we exist, a majority would make us a casualty of the political war.

    ” Without Knowledge, Skill cannot be focused. Without Skill, Strength cannot be brought to bear and without Strength, Knowledge may not be applied.

    “Margaret, you are where you should be.

  72. Newsfan April 29, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Thanks for the advice Mike. I don’t need to assume anything about Margaret, I can assure you.

  73. Malcolm April 29, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Okay Ms. Straight Talk “The basics of our system are simple. We elect the Parliament and the Parliament decides who gets the right to govern,”
    Canadians believe the Prime Minister is elected by direct ballot. We’re not knowledgeable enough to go to the polls and make decisions about who can represent us. We’re ill-informed we’re making choices without all the facts.”
    Only four provinces even require Canadian history as a mandatory course in high school.Canadians form a lot of their understanding from American TV.“ Read me the Mirand rights. Ha! What Miranda?
    It may not be “politically wise” to defeat a minority government that received strong support from voters. Visiting intellectual professors take note. One has fallen, one is going too, one is left to fall..Apocalypse 2011

  74. Vrbanovic April 30, 2011 at 1:13 am

    I’m liking Jack a little more, he got himself some booty in 96. A little Trudeau in him you think?

  75. Facetious Lee April 30, 2011 at 8:12 am

    Mike, you say
    “And bear in mind that an opinion behind a pseudonym equals near zero cred”.

    You are probably correct, but I like it where I am. Besides, Margaret even agrees with me sometimes, so that gives me at least a little credibility – does it not?

    All the various opinions on THE CITIZEN are a perfect example of why this county is deep in shit. (Don’t give me any of that crap about us being the best country – OK, so we are up to our waists in shit while other countries are up to their eyeballs). Give us a little time. We don’t have any politicians who are leading us out of the manure pile.
    This country will only be a good place for everyone when we start looking after ourselves instead of asking government for everything.
    I’m hoping Jack Layton will take a sensible approach to governing should he get all the control it seems is imminent.
    Anyhow, if he drives us futher in debt, we will just get to the bottom faster – and I can’t wait!

  76. Hags April 30, 2011 at 8:57 am

    Mike Cahill likes Guiness?….ah, nectar of the gods…I think I’m starting to warm up to one of our cities less loo-goob-ree-us lefties.

  77. Scot Ferguson-Barber April 30, 2011 at 10:36 am

    Lee, it’s good to have you back. “All the various opinions on THE CITIZEN are a perfect example of why this county is deep in shit.”
    You’re right, of course. (Aren’t you always?)People with their own opinions are certainltly throwing a screw intO “The Harper Regime,” and places like The Citizen for people to voice those opinions are screwing the country.
    Damned Canadians thinking for themselves.

  78. Hags May 17, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Ainsley, I am the only Hagarty in the Cambridge phonebook…feel free to connect. I’m not sure what my writing stule is but I sure am glad it connected with you. Hags

  79. Scot Ferguson-Barber May 17, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    The above reply from Ainsley Hayes is acually “spam”
    It is a computer generated response that pulls titles and names from your site, in an attempt to set up links here. Our “spam catcher” has stopped over 40,000 in 9 months, but sometimes they slip through. You can see how ingenious they are.
    I’m not going to delete it because it’s a good example.

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