10 Responses to Liberals by James Hagarty

  1. Terry Provenza March 18, 2011 at 8:28 am

    Time for the NDP to put up or shut up. Get it together is what i say, embrace the opening that exists and put together a policy that will attract all Canadians and they could pull this thing off, if they fail and wind up 3rd or 4th again then it is time to abandon ship and disperse the party and let a new group rise from the ashes to try. Maybe Allan’s Libertarians could become the next 3rd party.

  2. Hags March 18, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Terry, you are right about a new party. I see two parties tied to big business (and themselves) and one tied to big unions…while no party speaks for me. Pity!

  3. Allan Dettweiler March 18, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Let’s face it – the Libertarians will not be running Canada after the next election.
    But, Canadians should be “investing” their votes in parties that have credible, worthwhile ideas.
    More government intervention in our lives is not the way to go. Most individuals in Canada could look after themselves quite nicely if goverments would just butt- out of their lives.
    There are things where we all need to work together at such as defence, and police and fire protection.
    There needs to be a judicial system to resolve matters where arbitration fails.
    But things like government funded day care should be scrapped. If governments didn’t tax us so heavily, some families could live on one income. Or, be able to afford their own daycare.
    Libertarians don’t agree on everything. But they agree we should
    each own our own lives, and live as we see fit, provided that in doing so we don’t take away the equal right of others to do the same.
    We should not be living our lives to serve the ones who pretend they are serving us.

  4. Deron Rennick March 18, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Bring back Chretien? Yeah right. Chretien’s indifference to corruption within his own government, including his own unacceptable behaviour, had more to do with the Liberal Party’s demise than anything that Paul Martin ever did. Mr. Harper would do well to remember that. I personally can forgive honest mistakes – but I have no tolerance for corruption. Clean it up, Mr. Harper. The gift that the Liberals gave you when they imported ‘Iggy’ won’t be around forever. Let’s see some corrupt politicians and bureaucrats wearing orange coveralls for a change.

    PS. Oh wait, I forgot, whenever a senior public official is caught stealing the first priority is to shut him/her up and make them disappear so they don’t start ratting out the others. (This is one area where the major parties are all in sync.) I will vote repeatedly for any party that ever proves to me that they will take corruption seriously. Sadly, I may be waiting in vain?

  5. Hags March 19, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Deron, yes we have corruption but compared to the rest of the world it’s pretty penny ante. This does not mean we should not strive to do better.
    Anyway, my experience is that the national Press Gallery likes to focus on scandal and little else….think, busty hookers, airport hissy fits, stomping on a doll of Dubya.
    We are lucky not to have the many perverted sex and money scandals that most countries have.
    We have these scandals because we elect humans not saints to lead us.
    Anyway, I do agree with you that we should demand better from those that lead.
    And last, like you, I can’t figure out when mistakes are made that they just don’t own up to them. Pity

  6. Deron Rennick March 19, 2011 at 11:41 am

    Hags, when regular people get caught stealing, nobody says, “We have decided not to prosecute because it would cost more to prosecute than to just pay them off.” Just because somebody robs more banks than another does not make the other any less a bank robber as well.

  7. patrick vanderhayden March 19, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    Actually in some instances company’s do not prosecute employees caught stealing. I worked for a company that fired an employee who wound up pilfering about 8,000 dollars total over a 7 year period and never charged him because the cost to recover the money and the court costs would have been more than what he stole. They just fired him and let it go. I know of many restaurants that do not charge employees when caught” doctoring” they day takes they just let them go it is just easier that way. Doesn’t make it right but they do it, sometimes publicity makes it worse than what was taken. Not the same as politicians i know but it does happen.

  8. Lary Turner March 19, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    I spent a 34 year career working for a Crown Corporation and witnessed 3 incidents of management personnel stealing from the corporation (in 1 case it was estimated in the tens of thousands of dollars). In each incident, the individual was asked to sign a resignation letter and escorted from the premises with no charges being laid. I was told by a high ranking Investigations & Security Official that he was ordered not to procecute as the corporation did not want the bad publicity that would bring.

  9. Deron Rennick March 20, 2011 at 8:59 am

    Our elected representitives should be held to the highest standards – even if they are human beings too. That’s all I am saying.

  10. les March 30, 2011 at 9:12 am

    Speaking of corruption and scandal, I still can’t believe Mulroney is not wearing and “orange suit ” for keeping the money in his mattress and forgetting to declare it.
    As stated many times, those we elect set the standards and if those in office are getting away with anything the general public cannot, then standards and rules don’t exist.
    You have to know, that if one of us ” unelected ” citizens pulled the same stunt, there would be no ” working it out”, you’d be walking it off in a fenced compound for awhile.

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